tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post7507315366455405008..comments2023-11-05T20:02:03.805+10:00Comments on Saipan Middle Road: Why does the Chamber oppose Tina Sablan's Resident Foreign National Act?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-8373593949996896852008-06-18T15:48:00.000+10:002008-06-18T15:48:00.000+10:00The whole idea of eco-tourism, tour packages and e...The whole idea of eco-tourism, tour packages and etc. will not work today. the cnmi has to compete with other pacific and asia markets and if we add the cost analysis of each destination the cnmi cannot survive on this market alone.<BR/><BR/>The cnmi has to compete with hawaii and guam and believe me we need to infuse more money before we can begin to get into high gear. <BR/><BR/>The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-81452116995659404302008-06-18T09:33:00.000+10:002008-06-18T09:33:00.000+10:00Ms. D said:"Most garment factory seamsresses will ...Ms. D said:<BR/>"Most garment factory seamsresses will not become heavy equipment operators no matter how long a permit you issue them."<BR/><BR/>I think you will be surprised at how flexible people can be. At one time, China abounded in seamstresses turned heavy equipment operators. <BR/><BR/>More generally, I believe that the conversion of the existing population into a stable and permanent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-69714279563036569042008-06-18T09:31:00.000+10:002008-06-18T09:31:00.000+10:00Saipan Blogger said:"Again, those 'eagle' babies a...Saipan Blogger said:<BR/>"Again, those 'eagle' babies are American citizens. They have all the rights of you and I."<BR/><BR/>Blogger, be careful you don’t fall into the “eagle” mentality yourself – i.e., the glorification of US citizenship as conferring a stratus somehow superior to the rest of mankind.<BR/><BR/>Concern for the rights of the kids born on Saipan is admirable, but is better Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-1808249506353617972008-06-17T19:52:00.000+10:002008-06-17T19:52:00.000+10:00If people's livelihood came from the tourism indus...If people's livelihood came from the tourism industry, making handicrafts, putting together island tours, rather than make work government jobs, they'd make this place more tourist friendly, stop robbing them, stop littering, support eco-tourism instead of fighting it, more tourists would come and that would lift this place up, draw in more tourists and more money. It's also not written in stone Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129588857193564261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-911360282743698592008-06-16T23:32:00.000+10:002008-06-16T23:32:00.000+10:00And where is the money going to come from?If your ...And where is the money going to come from?<BR/><BR/>If your answer is, "the employers," then that is exactly the problem. <BR/><BR/>If, because of the cost of logistics out here, including fuel, the employers don't earn enough, that will be demonstrated soon enough in declining businesses and employees not being hired. Needless to say, anyone with eyes to see can tell you that is already Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-76892341111270885952008-06-16T23:02:00.000+10:002008-06-16T23:02:00.000+10:00You're making my point. I'm not from Saipan and I ...You're making my point. I'm not from Saipan and I was drawn here. A large number of people in the hospital and the AG's office and as you say PSS were lured here by what they thought were fair wages and the chance to live on a tropical island. You can draw Micronesians and U.S. citizens here to do just about anything the contract workers do, but not at $4.05.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129588857193564261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-73848482318323567962008-06-16T21:30:00.000+10:002008-06-16T21:30:00.000+10:00It's not sophistry when people lose jobs, my frien...It's not sophistry when people lose jobs, my friend.<BR/><BR/>To earn good wages, there have to be actual jobs available, and our work must earn more than that for our employers.<BR/><BR/>Oh. And the workers need to have the specialized training and experience to do the jobs, which is seldom available here in the CNMI.<BR/><BR/>Why do we have to hire teachers from off-island rather than just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-15063409540366392682008-06-16T20:36:00.000+10:002008-06-16T20:36:00.000+10:00There's this new invention in capitalism called pa...There's this new invention in capitalism called paying a rate that attracts workers. That kind of thing only seems to matter if you are a corporate CEO who can't live without a $30 million compensation package regardless of how well or not the company is doing. Of course all the rank and file workers are supposed to live on table scraps because "that's business." No it's not, it's cronyism and a Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129588857193564261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-53756199436100692722008-06-16T15:50:00.000+10:002008-06-16T15:50:00.000+10:00Anon...Heinz may be a co-sponsor and not in the co...Anon...Heinz may be a co-sponsor and not in the committee but don't forget that the duo were together promoting this at the Sabalu Market.<BR/><BR/>It was a public hearing right? Stanley and Arnold couldn't care less about this bill and said they would just go with the formality but the saying goes...this bill is dead on arrival.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-18622289710024772492008-06-16T14:04:00.000+10:002008-06-16T14:04:00.000+10:00Hey Dekada Shyster just how much money did you mak...Hey Dekada Shyster just how much money did you make off of these poor <BR/>CW's ? with the promise of a Green Card?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-10483691555683886752008-06-16T12:44:00.000+10:002008-06-16T12:44:00.000+10:00.Anonymous said... [T]he much better view is to no....<BR/><BR/><B>Anonymous</B> said... <BR/><BR/><I>[T]he much better view is to not count people who are TNT against the cap. So the entire basis of your "kill the economy" argument is based upon something that is dubious to bogus at best.<BR/><BR/>By the way, how is going TNT even possible under Mel Grey's perfect immigration system?</I><BR/><BR/>There is nothing “dubious to bogus” about the fact Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-83678654302404875362008-06-16T12:06:00.000+10:002008-06-16T12:06:00.000+10:00The only thing killing the economy is Governor Fit...The only thing killing the economy is Governor Fitial and his minions ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-45945787404613968132008-06-16T12:05:00.000+10:002008-06-16T12:05:00.000+10:00What do you mean, anon? Heinz is a co-sponsor of ...What do you mean, anon? Heinz is a co-sponsor of the bill. <BR/><BR/>He wasn't at the hearing, but maybe he is not a member of the committee. <BR/><BR/>Rep. Stanley Torres and the Speaker were there, but sitting in the chamber, not up at the dais with the committee members.<BR/><BR/>It says something that Stanley and the Speaker thought it important enough to be present and give it serious Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-89601732737814385652008-06-16T11:37:00.000+10:002008-06-16T11:37:00.000+10:00I'm sorry to say but Tina's bill will never pass. ...I'm sorry to say but Tina's bill will never pass. Where's Heinz? Exactly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-46021273612892715222008-06-16T09:48:00.000+10:002008-06-16T09:48:00.000+10:00Marianas Pride, you're are so right -- more than y...Marianas Pride, you're are so right -- more than you know.<BR/><BR/>Ms. D <A HREF="http://saipanmiddleroad.blogspot.com/2008/06/taking-hit-from-continentals-dropping.html?showComment=1213515420000#c5345798117381624680" REL="nofollow">is trying to claim</A> a copyright in her jingoistic little tag line (yes, that's a term used by advertising professionals) when she's actually guilty of trademark justice seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11208926291657347616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-26542231320225097222008-06-16T09:42:00.000+10:002008-06-16T09:42:00.000+10:00Ms. D's comment above has to be the stupidest anti...Ms. D's comment <A HREF="http://saipanmiddleroad.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-does-chamber-oppose-tina-sablans.html?showComment=1213323180000#c804922171984665595" REL="nofollow">above</A> has to be the stupidest anti-RFN status argument I have ever read!<BR/><BR/>It would appear she really is on an anti-federalization payroll, as those clowns continue to grasp at straws and the most strained justice seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11208926291657347616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-20238393232221812622008-06-16T08:10:00.000+10:002008-06-16T08:10:00.000+10:00Or...we could legalize TNT status since there is n...Or...we could legalize TNT status since there is no way home from the NMI unless we are going by shipping container.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-74972675199441643102008-06-16T08:08:00.000+10:002008-06-16T08:08:00.000+10:00I would like to see this bill become a model for t...I would like to see this bill become a model for the US. <BR/><BR/>I would further like to see the NMI wipe the stench of a generation of exploitation by adopting it, and then offering it to Senators Obama or McCain.<BR/><BR/>Then would could all say in harmony, "we asked for it and we got it"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-22469182307378017062008-06-16T02:30:00.000+10:002008-06-16T02:30:00.000+10:00Also, Ms. D, it's an open question as to whether t...Also, Ms. D, it's an open question as to whether the TNT count against the federal cap. The federalization law just says that the CNMI can't increase the number of "alien workers". People who are TNT arguably don't count as "workers" (certainly they're not authorized to be workers), and that's certainly a point of view that the Feds can consider in drafting its regs. In fact, the much better Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-72506892659273462942008-06-16T01:55:00.000+10:002008-06-16T01:55:00.000+10:00"Unemployed aliens, both legal (under H.B. 16-86) ..."Unemployed aliens, both legal (under H.B. 16-86) and illegal (“TNT”) all count against the federal cap imposed by Pub. L. 110-229."<BR/><BR/>OK, Ms. D, but then how, under your logic, would Tina's bill increase the usage of the slots? The people who are TNT don't qualify for status and are using up slots anyway. If people who are not TNT move from one status to another, and the people who are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-88078465137110642932008-06-15T23:53:00.000+10:002008-06-15T23:53:00.000+10:00According to Deanne Siemer, the Chamber of Commerc...According to Deanne Siemer, the Chamber of Commerce leadership was impressed with the efforts and approach of the LTR status working group. That group, including Deanne Siemer, Maya Kara, myself, and most of the Unity Movement core group, you will recall, has been working on substantively the same thing as Tina's bill.<BR/><BR/>Chamber leaders, according to Deanne, even went up to the justice seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11208926291657347616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-49142062897637147442008-06-15T23:40:00.000+10:002008-06-15T23:40:00.000+10:00Wow! There is a lot of nonsense here, beginning w...Wow! There is a lot of nonsense here, beginning with the remarks of Ms. D. I haven't had time to fully read everything yet, so I will limit myself to answering the question posed by Saipan blogger in the third comment.<BR/><BR/>I was there. I testified in support. I saw nothing that could really be characterized as "fireworks." Overall, it was a pretty good hearing, with the overall trend ofjustice seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11208926291657347616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-40631378794720945422008-06-15T22:22:00.000+10:002008-06-15T22:22:00.000+10:001. Again, those "eagle" babies are American citize...1. Again, those "eagle" babies are American citizens. They have all the rights of you and I.<BR/><BR/>2. Tina's bill could become the model for "federalization." Yes, Federal law will supercede, but there is still an opportunity to write the regulations.Angelo Villagomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970383305205702533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-1194977938637549452008-06-15T17:25:00.000+10:002008-06-15T17:25:00.000+10:00Anonymous said... Before, she said that the new st...Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/><I>Before, she said that the new status would allow people to stick around without jobs, and it would kill the economy. But people who are TNT would not qualify for status under the new bill, so why would it affect how many slots are being used up?</I> <BR/><BR/>Unemployed aliens, both legal (under H.B. 16-86) and illegal (“TNT”) all count against the federal cap Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5269105299671477561.post-49586306892895210212008-06-15T17:10:00.000+10:002008-06-15T17:10:00.000+10:00Twenty years ago the CNMI had local carpenters, el...Twenty years ago the CNMI had local carpenters, electricians, plumbers and other skilled tradesmen. Now there are none. Now most local kids grow up and move away because there are no jobs. How did that happen? Well we all know don't we!<BR/><BR/>Finally, we have some decent labor law in place that protects the people who really live in the CNMI and Tina comes along, trying to build a political Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com